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[MUSIC] For me it feels as if, every time after every project, even though you said you saw me on this, and you saw me on that, I feel like it's always starting back at one. And I guess that's the most humbling thing about being a black woman in Hollywood. It's not really take off where you left off. It's like, wow, I feel like I have to start all over again after each project. Yeah. For me. That's my perspective. That's real. I think, my perspective, in terms of being a writer and sort of being on that side but also still obviously acting as well, I think there's a lot of the wearing of the mask. Exist, it's the thing of being nice when you don't wanna be, using a certain tone of voice when you don't wanna. When you're really thinking of something else. And it's also about running a marathon and a half. It's like you complete the marathon and you think you're done when you have to keep running- Back to one. Trying to get to another finish line. Wow. It's exhilarating but it's exhausting. It's exhausting. It is. That's the lesson I'm learning. It's also about Speaking as from a writers standpoint, it is so difficult for us to get those movies through the system. To get green light, yes. Where you have roles that could go to someone like you, Angela, Liv, whoever. It is to get through all of that red tape. It's like we wan to tell these actors, we have these movies. I mean, we went through Hell on Earth to get Dear White People made because executives were like, Who's the audience? This is very layered. Wow. This is very sophisticated. But look at the level of conversation that it opened up. What kind of advice would you give, what words would you have for your own personal color, trying to come to the industry right now? To think outside of the box. Create your own project. If there's something that is whispered into your ear by God, I believe that is true inspiration. And do your own thing. Yeah. Take the opportunity, use Internet. Use web series. Use all of that, and to not stop, and do not take no for an answer. I love that. Do not be complacent. The way things are right now. If anything I would say [INAUDIBLE] gave me some advice many moons ago when I was her assistant, and it was very frustrating to me at the time. [CROSSTALK] I said what would you LIke tell me what advice you have and she tells me two words. She said be great. Be great and I think that people sometimes get caught up in I want to make a movie, I want the box office and all of these millions of followers. My question is will twenty years from now when you sit down at a movie Wow, this is a great find. Wow, I learned something. I was touched, I was moved, I was inspired, yes. I think sometimes the dollar is always the bottom line. I think for me, it's just what it can't be. It's like- It cannot be. heartless forever. Yes, it does. Money ain't free. Black roles matter because, We have been a transformative culture in the society. We have created a legacy, we come from very strong roots and we are such a integral part of American culture. Black roles matter because we are historic in value. We have wonderful stories to tell that aren't just what you would see on the news, culturally, in terms of everything. That's why I'm excited about Birth of a Nation. So black roles matter because we have such an important legacy in stories that need to be told. You [UNKNOWN] that. I would say black roles matter because to be invisible, Is to not be human. You slayed that. [LAUGH] No, I mean, that's really I think when we don't see ourselves as flawed, interesting, imperfect characters. It's a way of sort of giving easily digestible images of black people to broad audiences. And I think we need to sort of challenge audiences to see us. As human beings. Not saints, not sinners, but somewhere in between, which is where I think all humans live. So I think not only do black roles matter, but well drawn characters. When we can have shows like a black Mad Men, or a black Game of Thrones, or a black Broad City. Why does it even have to be black, you know what I mean? But to me it's like, when do we see a character like Don Draper That is a person of color. Right. I haven't seen that yet. So, I think, to me, it's really about getting those projects through the red tape for when folks will really kinda, they'll start to see black people differently. Cuz when they see black people differently on TV, they'll see them differently when they see them in the street. Exactly. [MUSIC]

Lena Waithe and Wendy Raquel Robinson Discuss Joy of Being Black Women in Hollywood

Actress Wendy Raquel Robinson is a veteran in the acting game—from The Steve Harvey Show to The Game—so she knows a thing or two about life in Hollywood. In an intimate conversation with actress and producer Lena Waithe, she shared some insight on what it means to be a Black woman in Hollywood.