This article originally appeared on EW.
The violent right-wing rally in Charlottesville earlier this month that left one woman dead and several others injured was originally organized in support of a statue of Confederate General Robert E. Lee. Ever since, people across the country have responded by removing other Confederate statues and symbols from public spaces.
Some have taken offense to this trend — most notably President Donald Trump, who tweeted that it was “sad to see the history and culture of our great country being ripped apart with the removal of our beautiful statues and monuments.”
On Monday’s edition of Fox & Friends, the president’s former campaign spokeswoman Katrina Pierson went even further, saying that the history of slavery and the Confederacy was “good history.”
Pierson was having a debate with Johns Hopkins professor Wendy Osefo about whether it was right for Democratic leader Nancy Pelosi to call for the removal of all Confederate monuments from the Capitol. Even after Osefo pointed out that most Confederate monuments were constructed in the decades after the Civil War by the Ku Klux Klan “as a revolt against black local power” and that “while they represent American history, it’s not the good part of American history,” Pierson refused to back down.
“It absolutely deserves a place, because that history is good history for this country,” Pierson said. “Absolutely. Where would we be today if not for that Civil War? How would people know how special and wonderful this country is?”
“Are you serious? Do you hear what you’re saying?” Osefo asked. “Do you know how many people died?”
“This is clearly a heated topic,” moderator Ainsley Earhardt offered. “No one is racist, no one believes in bigotry.”
Watch the clip above.